Legislature(2003 - 2004)
04/21/2004 07:45 AM House W&M
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ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE
HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS
April 21, 2004
7:45 a.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Representative Mike Hawker, Chair
Representative Bruce Weyhrauch, Vice Chair
Representative Vic Kohring
Representative Dan Ogg
Representative Ralph Samuels
Representative Peggy Wilson
Representative Max Gruenberg
Representative Carl Moses
MEMBERS ABSENT
Representative Norman Rokeberg
COMMITTEE CALENDAR
HOUSE BILL NO. 493
"An Act relating to adoption and revision of a long-term fiscal
plan for the State of Alaska."
- MOVED CSHB 493(W&M) OUT OF COMMITTEE
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION
BILL: HB 493
SHORT TITLE: LONG TERM FISCAL PLAN
SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) HARRIS
02/16/04 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
02/16/04 (H) W&M, FIN
02/25/04 (H) W&M AT 7:00 AM HOUSE FINANCE 519
02/25/04 (H) Heard & Held
02/25/04 (H) MINUTE(W&M)
03/03/04 (H) W&M AT 7:00 AM HOUSE FINANCE 519
03/03/04 (H) Heard & Held
03/03/04 (H) MINUTE(W&M)
03/19/04 (H) W&M AT 8:00 AM HOUSE FINANCE 519
03/19/04 (H) -- Meeting Canceled --
03/24/04 (H) W&M AT 7:00 AM HOUSE FINANCE 519
03/24/04 (H) Scheduled But Not Heard
04/16/04 (H) W&M AT 7:00 AM HOUSE FINANCE 519
04/16/04 (H) Moved CSHB 493(W&M) Out of Committee
04/16/04 (H) MINUTE(W&M)
04/21/04 (H) W&M AT 7:45 AM HOUSE FINANCE 519
WITNESS REGISTER
[No witnesses to report]
ACTION NARRATIVE
TAPE 04-26, SIDE A
Number 0001
CHAIR MIKE HAWKER called the House Special Committee on Ways and
Means meeting to order at 7:45 a.m. Representatives Hawker,
Samuels, Kohring, Wilson, Gruenberg, Moses, and Ogg were present
at the call to order. Representative Weyhrauch arrived as the
meeting was in progress.
HB 493-LONG TERM FISCAL PLAN
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CHAIR HAWKER announced that the only order of business would be
HOUSE BILL NO. 493, "An Act relating to adoption and revision of
a long-term fiscal plan for the State of Alaska."
CHAIR HAWKER explained that the purpose of the meeting is to
solve a parliamentary dilemma from the last meeting when a vote
was taken to move the committee substitute (CS) for HB 493 from
committee. Five members were present and the motion carried by
a vote of 4 to 1. However, the chair originally ruled that it
would take the full five members to move the bill out, a
parliamentary issue was raised challenging that point, and the
chair acquiesced with the intention of getting a parliamentary
ruling, he related. Though there is some latitude within
Mason's Rules for a minority of the committee to move a bill,
the long-standing procedure in the body here, and a procedure
Chair Hawker said he wishes to endorse is that it does require a
majority of the committee to report a bill out of committee.
CHAIR HAWKER noted the arrival of Representative Weyhrauch. He
asked for a motion to rescind the earlier vote to report CSHB
493 out of committee.
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REPRESENTATIVE SAMUELS moved [to rescind the motion from April
16 to report the CS for HB 493, Version 23-LS1765\H, Utermohle,
3/18/04, out of committee]. There being no objection, the
motion to report CSHB 493 out of committee was rescinded.
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG asked if a new motion is needed to
adopt the proposed CS, or if there were enough members present
at the last meeting to do that.
CHAIR SAMUELS replied that the CS was legitimately adopted.
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REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG moved to report CSHB 493, Version 23-
LS1765\H, Utermohle, 3/18/04, out of committee with individual
recommendations.
REPRESENTATIVE OGG objected. He said he thinks a fiscal plan is
needed, but he said the elements of the plan should be included.
He said he would vote for a plan that contained the elements of
a plan.
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG replied that he has nothing to add and
that the bill speaks for itself.
CHAIR HAWKER noted that he has grave concerns about the
inability to achieve the objectives stated in the bill.
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A roll call vote was taken. Representatives Weyhrauch, Kohring,
Moses, Wilson, Samuels, and Gruenberg voted in favor of the
motion to report CSHB 493 out of committee. Representatives Ogg
and Hawker voted against it. Therefore, CSHB 493(W&M) was
reported out of the House Special Committee on Ways and Means by
a vote of 6-2.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before the committee, the House
Special Committee on Ways and Means meeting was adjourned at
7:51 a.m.
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